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see all the african nations overhauling the military ties with the west. what's the nature of change? do you see that's needed here? oh, well, it depends on the circumstances to begin with. because for me, my reference point is how we got to where we got to. and we didn't have relations with the rest, so we didn't have any in position of the west on us except when we invited them. because we wanted to sell the idea to the whole load and have the whole load supported. we'd be no press for the longest time possible long of to most of the can countries received the independence. we lived in an a parties situation. so by the time that people are ready to go back home, we'd love tell us what would work and what would work. so we wanted the words to buy into, into, into a solution. and then finally it did. it was one that was
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accepted by all. we had a negotiated settlement and we agreed on the terms on which we would go forward and to get to an election. the african national congress won the election. so we are now the governing party for the longest time. we will continue because we've worked all this time to ensure that we can provide people with all the things that are needed by a decent more than a free society. all right, we'll come to into relations and all of that, let me delve into the issues in the middle east. now, the international court of justice. yes. and you know, following the case that was reported intended by a south africa to the i. c g against ease all uh there was a p, a message that is also deceased from any of the genocide going forward. and despite all of that didn't get so we still see as well with
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impunity with on accountability, pounding gossip. why do you think these are all seem to be on top of all these rooms and still people because the international community allows that the i, c, j is a product to the united nations system, which is the ultimate court which we resorted to, to lay a complaint the i c j gave is rudy overwhelmingly and we expected that it would be you know, handed down and taken seriously by everybody in the united nation. it's not just about cost, it's not just about what is happening and to the palestinian people. it's an international problem. you cannot have one country completely overlooking the basic laws and regulations and basically abide by as the united nations. what does the united nations doing? what is it that way?
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that's a big question. that's really a big question. i must say. now, as it is now, western states are promoting a module of democracy which they see as maybe universal, you know, to be or pre to then adopt the bible or countries. mm hm. do you think that that is a module dash, every country should adopt one form of democracy? well, i didn't know how the u. n gets to a model of the country and what they, what they would tell them democracy we have is of the can people being very clear that we want this particular model of democracy. that the, that resonates with our culture. however, that there would be searching for them because around which we gauge with a democracy is working on what the democracy is not working. and again, i get back to the united nations. we join the united nations because it's and it's
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an a pill. but for the, the, to solve our problems that they don't, that which works and that which doesn't work for a long time. we have been under the some of the west because it suits them. uh and uh, what i would call now the countries, the united states. it seems to be above everybody else can do anything for the advice i can do anything. we have been dealing with the meta of the relationship between israel and his neighbors for some time as south africa. and we thought that the heb, so we could, to having gone through the same kind of problem as the police didn't use. we thought we could offer as well, and the police didn't use a solution. we caused them to a country very early on after we got into power and tried to talk sense to them. and dependents didn't use understood the sense that easily at least did not
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understand the sense and the rest is history. they've gone on to to have the kind of masika we have enough know, you know, time. and we fell to model obligation to do something. and we did, we went to the icj and presented our case very sort of the worked on and very convincing. they put across the majority to of the judge disagreement. and the judgement goes past. we're expecting that then there are no more procedures that follow that. now the, the use thing that a 2 state solution as most of the world is calling for. it's possible in the near future to. so who for palestine and easily um i think the for me the most important thing is you go to create a situation of normalcy. you cannot have the situation that is going on there with
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the desk escalating every day. and then perhaps you mentioned that you'd be able to provide the solution that after the go to make sure the try to know is really does recognize garza does recognize international choice, does internet. it does recognize that this has some things that they cannot do. by the time you go to a 2 states, best solution you're talking about normally people who are responding to who 2 things in a normal way. that isn't, and you know, mostly there before we go through the 2 state solution. the world has to make sure that the outcome of the i, c. j is adopted and respected. we can go on like this. i watched to a session of the united nations with the representatives of as well to offer a resolution of, of, of the house. and i thought the word would be up in arms about something, something like that. uh i, i served as a minnesota international relations and i was in the u. n. and you know, it's
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a place we respect, you know, mostly because ultimately that's what we created for that it had been added to that, that should not be any, was it, you know, beyond what we've gone through in the 2nd world war. but watching that particular episode made me want to do we have an equal rights at the united nations? do we have the people who can equity opportunity and not allow to we took a decision that we would take the meta to the i c j. but before would take of the match it to the eyes you do. we also had taken a number of steps to try and see that we can normalize it. go to normalize the situation con, have these deaths going on these of people. these are children and dying. every day on your screen, what do you think the world is thinking? uh, i think there's going to be an immediate association of, of any shutting in, in, in that area or any forming in that area. before we can talk about, you know,
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what do we do next? every day children, i'm dying guys. every day that we have been covering this every single day and it's really terrible, it is. but why is a little quiet about is why is the word quiet about why is is well so different, why diseases? so different something happens in south africa and it was, you know, comes down on us and until we have to explain, you know, what it is that is happening in a country. that seems to be um, you know, the child in the family can get away with it and we're talking about bulky and that's what it's called a double standard that everyone is complaining about that besides, besides the move bites of africa, you know, going to the i c, j, we have had ross that we've had china say let us put an end to this issue here at the floor of the united nations security council. the up to date,
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the week after week this with clear messages from russia. tim, this, it is from, from china and even most of the world, you know, at the end of this whole thing, do you see that not the green to face the reality on ground. could make israel become isolated from countries who are watching them full in what's going on. i don't know why it's not already isolated, which is going on. this is an emotional but in all the time we've had to was was and at the end of the 2nd good for and we decided to we are going to have a membership of the united nations. it was because we didn't want to not double. and here we are watching day by day. as young people, children, babies, old women must have got and were you just sitting though helpless, something wrong with the humanity. when that happens, if you should all be,
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it should not just be saw enough to to be all of us saying is unacceptable. it must of and uh, hopefully that you know, that will be some residents from the world at some point where everybody is, is, is a part of this particular complaint of stuff the well, uh, and without, with, without wasting any time, every day the children die. alright let's, let's get to the elections of africa that's coming up. now the democratic alliance wrote elected to the us secretary state cooling and inviting them to monitor the elections. and inside i forgot, in fact, us that they should be an engagement of consequences to build up to the election and so on. whether we draw the line between supporting a country and mentally domestic affairs of the country. when, when i heard about this,
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it was because one of the members of the democratic alliance was opposed on, on listening to the leader of the d, a speaking to somebody in the united states. and it seemed that being at the back of his mind, he had worked out the to the united states with a system in coming out part of south africa like the western cape to be an independent state. but as i followed the story in a, it became quite clear to me that the western cape does not recognize anybody else except the united states mentors of that nature should they arise. we have an a you and so and hopefully k the signature there. they would have taken the met today if they had a problem about the election. we also have a very capable i e, c. and c. a. which has run your directions all this time. why we should call
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upon that particular country to come and wanted to is ridiculous up to the, to the ticket as we won't allow it any way. we still lived in party. we think that's what we have is enough to ensure a free and fair election. it has over the years. so why should we allow that? but we do have multics everywhere, and the d a has this month of x, and i think this is what we're faced with right now. all right, now the, the, let's talk about the african continent. now be to date several, un peace, keep peace keeping mission happens. come on that various kinds of criticism. and i said this, why do you saying that the un on the african continent from east to west not itself, are struggling to do the jobs, especially keeping peace and returning normalcy to those countries?
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well, i don't know why they're struggling. we've, we've had been called upon as a, as, as a sub african government to intervene. and in a free place where we've intervened, we have been able to lay down standards. we've been able to lay down timeframes. and we've noticed we've driven back to that. we had available for peacekeeping purposes. we don't have to go outside and purchase the united states uh me to come and keep peace in africa. and we, we have our own institutions. and perhaps the a you need would, would need to explain why it is that, uh, you know, we would have an errant parts of the, of the continent running to the united states when we are there we, we, we have, we have the capacity within ourselves to do to do what needs to be done. reliance on people from outside is very colonial. we should be over that by now.
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now as it was k, if i remember when that uh, because they're not drawing me new, sue, my waspy will see a huge pressing sheet on village. the agenda 2063, which talked about the future of africa and the solve the capacity of africa to solve its own problems. but in real terms, do you think africa, africa has the capacity, you know, route to solve its own problems without the un, without, for an interference is on. so from outside the continent. i think that when we trusted this, this document 2063, we had weighed up whether or not we have the capacity. and we've come to the conclusion that we do have the capacity. this is how we direct this capacity. it is how we use that capacity and that capacity can only improve when it is used. but the is an over lines on western countries for some reason that i better to
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understand. we have the answers on the african continent. we have the, there is offices of the african continent. if we have the will and the african continent, we don't really need the kind of interventions that we have been going on to find outside of ourselves. that age, who has the capacity to has the power it has the will. and perhaps we should be urging to intervene. time use leave and rely on the african continent to solve african inviting an outside the into a situation which one the my foot understand which to with might not be, you know, might hook mean anything to this, not going to solve the problem that it has never solve the problem in my understanding, having seen the municipal defense is that to actually some of the was that we have been engaged in have been made, was by outside interference. extend that so many places across the entire african
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continent. but don't let, let's talk about the issues of functions that in the united states has impose sanctions on russia, some african countries and so on. it goes on it on year to year dec a decade and so on. russia right now is one of the most sanctioned countries in the world. mm hm. why, how do you, what assess that kind of unilateral move with it is not the united nation secuity castle resolving to sanction the country that was um, for me, the just indicates that the is something that we need to do about the united nations to make it more representative of everybody around the table because i have found when i was minutes of international relations, something that worried me tremendous the inequality within the united nations
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family. this one simple example to deviates from your question we would get them and uh, we would be each one of us presenting our presidents, you know, the opening address. do you know what it would be older european countries. and the african countries would be someone with down the line at 8 p. m 9 p. m. and they'll far use empties. and it worries me. why do we not have these countries all of us equal running alphabetically? um, you know, when we were talking about viewing the u. n. system, i was hoping that by now we would have review with the us system because the whole idea around to you in system is to create to equality. that equality is to sadly, oh, absolutely nothing. now the, the u. n. is, is over 70 years old since 1945. how do use these see still being
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relevant according to its original objective that he was created. okay, uh if, if we could find some residence within ourselves and the who and perhaps we might help with a loan. and 2, we find an alternative. i don't know if we have an alternative. it was a solution that, that we had our hope to would look. it's a solution that we still look up to to look. but we have found as a applicant continent and i'm speaking from experience here. we have found that the new quality, the represents the new quality, all over the world. the doc are you uh, the, the fitness arrives. you have um and i would say we just need to make sure that uh, we will be no pressed. redeem colonized can come together and put on the table
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some way in which we think that the united nations can represent a special ed. the thing nice nations can be, the price would go to, to get solutions and that could all be treated equally. this indicated in an equal of treatment that to that need we sense as applicants must be something though of the past it we, we, we have, we have gone through a wall, which is why we have the united nations. and we still hoping that you can book, but it has not worked as effectively and we also can countries. i'm up the top of the list in the concerns that i've discussed it in a couple of the seen, many or the things that are going on. the needs to be a re shaping of the architecture to the needs to be conscious of remover, of any quantity of conscious remove levels into quite a t. as i indicated earlier on,
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i was appalled when ed representative of the of israel co op a un resolution. i just thought it would not have happened any way. if that was enough, we can country, that would be an actual because this is a place to come to, to kind of curious, i mean, quality for the word of mutual respect and use. absolutely. so right now let's, let's go back to the african, you know, continent how far is african countries and especially use of africa ready to go in the motus of, indeed all our eyes ation. we've seen this desire from so many countries lately, and it is growing by the day it's going into how it's in the minds of people. but on the ground, i have not seen any definitive steps towards the dollar ization. this is something that we really urgent to need so that we ourselves can be able to
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determine the parameters of i or the economies and down to the cost of only economy is we cannot be hanging on to the dollar. it's not suitable for all i need, but what do you say that should even spot some because it's a, you're not seeing it practically now, but where should the spot from? where should we begin to see you from? what is the item as to what does the left the smells costs the the i am a sudden the, the world bank i see nice uh you talked to buddy quality said as an order about the wrong of course. so many countries have a lot of suspicion when it comes to dealing with the i m f and the world bank, you think they have the instrument on what it takes to have that. you know, the, the delilah is ation. what, what's the point that i was putting a cost is for as long as we have a new quantity,
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we're comfortable going to continue on the same. on the same, you know, yeah. check. we've been waiting for this, the dollarization. and for us in the, in the big 70, we've been very grateful for the, for the fix the arrangement in the hope that we would be able to get out of the fund of, to the dollar have a own currency. and, you know, seeing from the rest of the world, we are still held up by certain aspects that to bind every other country. and what, what, what is me, is it every time that we talk about what politics were that we're talking about, the process of dollarization and all of those things. we don't get to the root cause of all of this in, in, in our view from south africa is just blatant racism. with one
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country assumes a dominance that it has absolutely no right to have and continues on that and the world watches. and we go on about few rising above the depot, rise in this phase, and that phase. i just think we're taking too long in trying to deal with some of these issues. and we saw we the 3rd would suffer the and we, and dying to get autos to of, of a dollar wise economy. and for us in south africa, we really looking to breaks to, to get us out of the situation. and we had a session at to the university here. we were trying to work out how far we've gone in creating a fix. thank. so that we can be free to, to uh,
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to have all economies in our own hands. uh and uh, we are searching the people who are working around the expense to try and you know, fast track it so that we can get all sedona. if it's holding us, then some rides from the continent ride through the world and that was no need for it is no need any longer for that. everyone's calling for multiple well, and i believe that's where the world is going right now. we have to leave here now, lady lacy, sulu, i'm for a minister of international relations and cooperation as of africa. thank you so much for your insight here. thank you very much for having me right now. are to the comments where you can get all the details of all the story as well. following of this, our thanks for watching and i'll see you again in just few minutes. the,
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